European Ancestors – Understanding France (2) (Paris)

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This post is part of a series about genealogy in France. You can read the complete series HERE.

Following the defeat of France after the Franco-Prussian war 1870-1871, a fire broke out in two locations in Paris, that held copies of all civil records pertaining to events prior to 1861.

These locations were:

  • Town Hall (Hotel de Ville)
  • Law Court (Palais de justice)

Also there were other records that were destroyed such as financial and police records.

Civil records from 1860-1871 were kept at district town halls and as a result, these survive. It was possible to reconstruct records concerning families and descendants, sorted by date and surname and then subsequently digitised. These can be found at the website for the Paris Archives, and on FamilySearch under the term “Reconstitution Chronologique des Actes”

  • Births 1860 – 1924
  • Marriages 1860 – 1945
  • Deaths 1860 – 1986

Parish is divided into 20 arrondissements and each has it’s own register. There is a database for each arrondissement for each record type and they are divided into 10 year periods – these are noted as tables decennales.

Between 1933 and 1954 only annual tables exists.

There are records for Paris on:

  • Families Parisiennes which are sorted by surnames
  • Geneanet
    • various index records most of which are photographed by volunteers.
    • some trees uploaded by others, which might provide clues for other researchers
  • Filae access to index records 1860 – 1900 with some earlier that 1860
  • City directories for 1932 – 2018 (not online) and at Paris archives.
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European Ancestors – Understanding France (1) (Census)

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This post is part of a series about genealogy in France. You can read the complete series HERE.

  • 1791 was the first population census, but it is rare to find a surviving document from that time.
  • The majority of towns and cities have their records dating from 1826 or 1831.
  • Census held every five years, except during periods of war
    • 1871 Census was held in 1872 as a result of the Franco-Prussian War.
    • 1916 Census cancelled due to the First World War
    • 1941 Census cancelled due to the Second World War
  • The information contained within a Census document has evolved over time:
    • Surname and first name
      • Women might be listed under their maiden name
    • Occupation
      • Those without an occupations will either have the box empty, or will be filled with sp or sans
      • Type of employment (not all)
        • owner or employee (name of employer, if relevant)
    • Marital status
    • Relationship to the head of the household
    • Age, or year of birth
    • Address (from 1851)
    • Nationality and place of birth (not all)
  • Census for Paris only exist for the following years: 1926,1931, 1936 and 1946
    • Electoral rolls exist and can be found at the Paris Archives.
  • Date of each census can be found written at the bottom of the last page on the census.
  • Census records can be found in the department offices for each region and these are often digitised, and go up until 1936.
    • You can do an internet search (Google is probably best)  for the name of the town + “archives departementales” 
    • Not all regions use the same terminology, and these might be found under different names:
      • recensement
      • denombrement
      • recensement de la population
  • Most of the census are unindexed, which is OK for a small town or village, but really it is best for you to know where your ancestors lived, the information can be found in birth, marriage and death records.
    • Filae does have several indexed census’ – 1872, 1901-1911
  • Enumerators frequently used abbreviations:
    • d for ditto, a wavy line or id (abbreviation for the Latin word of idem, meaning same)
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THE Genealogical Event of the Calendar

Provided by RootsTech

The event all genealogists have been waiting for has ARRIVED and raring to go – RootsTech is a great event and it is:

#ChooseConnection is all about uniting people worldwide while celebrating our diversity and highlighting how individuals choose connection over division.

The quote here is the last paragraph on the Roots Tech website. Never has a paragraph seemed as important as it is today, in our modern and tragic world.

The pre-recorded talks #RootsTech2022 are now all available for free on familysearch.org/rootstech/  

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European Ancestors Talk to Kent FHS

I was lucky enough to talk to members of  Kent Family History Society on Tuesday evening.

The subject matter was Researching in Continental Europe and it is always interesting to hear from those who are researching in Europe and to answer questions.

I have had several emails with questions, please bear with me as I answer them in turn. Several people have asked about the Pharos course and I have of course emailed a reply, but I will write a separate post in the next couple of days, as it occurs to me that it might be of interest to the wider genealogical community.

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Talk – European Ancestors

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I shall be giving my talk, European Ancestors, to Kent Family History Society tomorrow, 1 March 2022.

It is my understanding that the talk is available to members only, but non-members can join Kent FHS for the very reasonable £14 membership fee.

It is quite a challenge to cram such a talk into one hour, indeed a 50,000 word text has been given numerous times as a presentation. It has been expanded to a half day event at the Society of Genealogists and now it has been extended into five week course which is available at Pharos Tutors, even then I am merely touching the surface. Talks continue to be offered.

There is much to understand about Europe and in many way you need to understand the more recent past, even the current, as a way of understanding the wider historical context of the countries across Europe.

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European Ancestors – Not Living in Isolation

Our European ancestors did not live in isolation. They were impacted by:

  • Political decisions
  • Historical events
  • Family decisions in earlier generations
  • Boundary changes, including some that happened in earlier years
  • Religion
  • Wars
  • Colonial measures

Quite recently someone asked me why there was colonial information and more modern information relating to European genealogy in the Researching Ancestors from Continental Europe course and the short answer is as I have listed above, but let me expand on that a little.

Researching in Europe is a huge undertaking and requires dedication to learn and explore. Our ancestors may have lived in 18th Century Turin, Paris, Moscow or any number of more rural locations, but they did not live in a bubble, that suspended those individuals away from the effects of those earlier times, or meant they were not experiencing the fallout of decisions made by others.

So, it is very important to gain a sense of how your country of interest was governed and by whom in the periods of yesterday, whether yesterday was 200 years ago or last week. It is also really important to gain context.

The course provides opportunity to read, learn and explore Europe, and the wider reach of the continent. It does not provide all the answers, but instead opportunity and I look forward to welcoming those with an interest in European ancestry on the course.

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Census, People and Genealogy – 1921 Census

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Continuing with the Census, People and Genealogy series – all posts can be found HERE. There is also a Census downloadable to be found HERE.

This post is a bit later than I anticipated, mainly a time issue and I wanted to spend time looking at the 1921 Census.

The Guild of One-Name Studies also had a recent webinar from Find My Past about the release of the Census and I wanted to review the census that contained my Grandmother. I had not managed that by the time of the webinar, but hope to, between now and the weekend.

In the meantime, the webinar from Find My Past was very informative and can be found on the Guild’s website, click the image below:

Click the image to go to the Guild of One-Name Studies, where you can listen to the presentation from Paul Nixon

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Q & A – Naming and Numbering Patterns for a One-Name or Surname Study

Created by Julie Goucher – Feb 2020 Using Wordclouds.com

I recently received an email from someone at the beginning of their One-Name or Surname Study. The email contained several questions, which I am going to split into four posts. This is post two. Click to read Post One.

What advice or guidance can you give on naming/numbering patterns?

Over recent years various students have asked me about naming or numbering patterns. I have the general view of lets keep it simple. If you are entering people into software, then the identifying number the software allocates is sufficient. The number itself is nothing more than a way to identify one John Smith from another.

As I enter people into my database the software generates a number. How this is displayed does vary depending on the software used. My Grandfather, individual number 5 was added to my original program which was Family Origins (from the same developer as Roots Magic.). In Roots Magic the display options were the individual number and the year of birth. The individual highlighted is my Grandfather – (you can see it clearer by clicking the image.)

Image showing individual 5 – RootsMagic – Julie Goucher, 2022

I recently began using Family Historian, populated by an extracted GEDCOM from Roots Magic. My maternal Grandfather, George Butcher is individual 5, regardless of the software used. As you can see the layout is very different, but still providing the same individual and the same data.

Image showing individual 5 – Family Historian v7 – Julie Goucher, 2022

The number in my database is also the number I incorporate into the naming schedule for what I will call media items, so things like photographs and documents – I will write a longer post on this, so stay tuned!

The person who asked the next question appearing here is not the same person who asked the question above, but it is relevant to reply to that question also, in this post.

I was planning to transcribe all the individuals with my surname from the census into Excel, what is the best way to give numbers family grouping?

Oh, that is an interesting questions. Before I answer the question, let me ask a few questions – Why? and is that a good use of your genealogical time?

I am going to share my approach as a way of answering the question. The census information is widely available to genealogists, and with my studies being quite big, I am not doing a widescale extraction of the data.

As I build family groups, which I do from a marriage, I then look at the census for each individual. I capture the details provided in the census by adding that to my database as facts:

  • Age of individual
  • Where the individual was living
  • Occupation of individual
  • Marital status of individual

Then all those individual facts have the source as the X Census of England and Wales (or other location) and the reference number for the details.

My paternal great grandmother had the surname of VIRCIGLIO, there are no individuals of that name in England and Wales prior to 1945, but if there was, I would gather those individuals into my records, either by adding the individuals to my separate database and or my notebook.

TRY THIS: If you are not sure of the approach you are wanting to use,  think back to where you were in the census years for your country, make sure to include the following for each census year:

  • Address
  • Who you would have been living with
  • Age
  • Marital Status
  • Occupation or Scholar (specify which school and where it was)
  • Religion
  • Other characteristics which would be included for each census in your country

Then add each piece of information into your software, noting the source information.

We discuss this and much more in the Practicalities of a One-Name Study course.

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Q & A – Collecting Data for One-Name & Surname Studies

Created by Julie Goucher – Feb 2020 Using Wordclouds.com

I recently received an email from someone at the beginning of their One-Name or Surname Study. The email contained several questions, which I am going to split into four posts. This is post one.

The first questions is concerned with data collection or gathering.

“I am just beginning to expand data collection from my own family and I want to get things right from the beginning. Do you use software, Excel or genealogical software”

Firstly, there is no “right way” to start a study, there is only your way.

Now let us go back a step and I am going to list a few questions that are worthy of contemplation before you begin in earnest, because those answers will enable you to move forward.

  • Watch the recording I recently did for the Guild (click the image below) download the accompanying Handout – What to look at that suits your study
  • As you begin your study, consider how to you might want to share you material
  • Consider the preservation of your study.
Copyright Julie Goucher, 2021 – Slide Template by Slide Carnival
  • Are you planning to have a separate database for your One-Name material which may  include your own link to the family, or do you plan to simply have a file for your study, and your family in a separate file? Let me share my approach as an example:
    • I use family history software and I have two files, one for my family and one for my study.
    • I have a Guild of One-Name Studies Website Project site for each of my studies and both sites use TNG, which is a piece of software that effectively takes a GEDCOM file and displays it in a clear and worthy appearance for viewers.
    • Both of my files are kept within my genealogical software, and I upload both of those files as GEDCOM files to my website. Anyone visiting the site and searching is able to search each file which are called  Trees individually, or all trees.
    • Having made those decisions let us look at my approach to collecting data, again offered as an example.
      • Firstly, there is not perhaps a single method of collecting data. For me there is a varying approach depending on where the material is located:
      • I might see instances of my surnames in books and want to capture that material, in which case I either add it to my notebook, along with the information of the book as the citation, and the date I accessed the book (and where the book is located).
      • If I come across material online, depending on the way the material is presented capture the information which includes the URL and the date I saw the information and add copy it to either an Excel file (or similar spreadsheet) or a word document. It remains in that software, which I use as a holding pen until the material is entered into my genealogical database.
      • I also enter the material into my research log, identifying any further tasks into my to do list.
      • Some Guild members, locate material and enter it immediately into their database, missing my holding pen approach. They capture the citation etc at the same time.
      • Try both methods, which one do you prefer? Don’t forget to try with a variety of material.

We discuss this and much more in the Practicalities of a One-Name Study course.

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#52 Ancestors – Week 6 Maps

10 Mile Radius of Guildford, Surrey (England) – Part of the Guildford & District Collection, Julie Goucher

Is anyone else amazed sometimes of the actual geography of somewhere? I don’t mean by a map, I mean where you have actually visited somewhere & suddenly realise that two or perhaps three places were closer than you originally thought, or perhaps remembered?

Of course, when that happens it means perhaps you need to consider where in the locality you are going to research, whether that be by visiting or by using the Internet. Where I grew up in Surrey was quite close to my ancestral stomping ground. Surrey borders Berkshire, Hampshire, Sussex, Kent and of course Middlesex.

I had always known that and of course living in the area took it for granted. A few years ago my husband and I ventured back to my native Surrey and had elected to stay in one of the budget hotels. We only needed somewhere to sleep as during the day I would be researching and hubby would be fishing. Guildford is notoriously expensive in the hotel market, so we ventured down to Liphook which was the area where my Grandmother’s maternal line had lived.

I can not read a map with any degree of success, so we took a wrong turn, and headed under a railway bridge. Then suddenly I saw the County sign reading Sussex.

Quickly we stopped the car and I asked hubby how far we were out of Liphook. The answer was less than a mile. It was one of those moments when your heart races a little faster as you comprehend just what you have discovered. Please tell me that you have all had those moments…..

We retraced our steps and made it to the hotel. We checked in and sorted ourselves, made a quick drink and then went off to walk around the area. I steered the walk back under that railway bridge and was again in Sussex.

The next day at the Records Office I sought a map and looked again at the stopping ground of my Grandmother’s family. The excitement was caused by my great great Grandmother, who, on every census from 1841 right up to 1911 stated that she had been born either in Liphook or Bramshott with varying degrees of regularity – neither was correct!

It is worth mentioning that in 1841 the Census did not provide a specific location, merely within the County or not, so effectively a yes or no answer. Of course, a Y for yes had been placed in the box, when it should have been N!

Originally I had searched Frensham (Surrey) and then parishes across the Hampshire border. I decided to searched the local parishes that were across the border into Sussex, starting with Midhurst. I eventually selected Lurgershall and there she was:

Baptism of Mary Denyer, Lurgershall Parish Records, Sussex, England (1) – 29 December 1838

It was a truly wonderful moment. The details are as followed

29 December 1838, Mary daughter of Edward and Emma Denyer, residing at Dial Green, Lurgershall. Edward was a labourer.

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So, if your ancestor is not where they tell you they were look a bit further afield, with the thought process of 200 years ago, the world before cars, to a world when people walked several miles a day. Think what you would do in their shoes.

I knew the area, but had I examined a map with more attention, I might have located Mary earlier.

(1) Full Citation – Lurgershall Sussex, England. Parish Register, Baptisms. Registers are located at The County Records Office, Chichester.

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