Beyond the Internet Week 11: Church Archives


Continuing the weekly theme, inspired by Family History Across the Seas.

Over the last few weeks I have spoken about the Parish Chest at Puttenham and the Church Records also at Puttenham. I don’t believe that Puttenham is a unique village. There are probably rural communities across the UK where an amazing amount of data relating to early parishioners has survived. Perhaps a curious Religious man who loved his adopted parish, as in the case of Charles Kerry of Puttenham. The Parish Records for Puttenham are fairly generous. Early records exist within the Records Centre and later records are held at the Church for those who wish to visit.

My Grandfather was born in the neighbouring parish of Wanborough, so having spent quite a lot of time in Puttenham and received nothing by hospitality and generosity, I toddled off to the church at Wanborough to seek the details of the Church Warden. I telephoned him and made an appointment to visit and look at the records.

I have to say, this was around 1988 and before the worries of identity fraud had really taken off, so I had, based upon experiences from a parish 2 miles away that I would be met with friendliness and would be welcomed. The was huge reluctance to let me see the registers.

These were not especially modern births, they ranged from 1900 until the 1920s, and at that point, the majority of my Great Aunts and Uncles had passed away, with the exception of 3 of them. There was one chair, so I moved it and sat down with a pencil and my note book to write down the details, the Church Warden hovered behind me then started pacing. I have no idea what his worries were. I suddenly announced that I would be at least 3 hours and that I was more than happy for him to leave me and come back after a time. He did and I breathed a sigh of relief. I continued on my quest and wrote down every single baptism, marriage and burial detail relating to my family names. I had no intention of returning for a while. I mentioned this to my contact in Puttenham who informed me that the Church Warden always behaved like that. I heard a few years later that he had passed away and returned to the parish again, to view the records and meet the then Church Warden. It was a completely different experience.

Regardless, of how I was made to feel, I was adamant that I was not going to be put off looking at the records for my relatives. The moment I saw the entry for my Grandfather in 1908 was a very special one and I was not going to let a stranger spoil it for me. The experience of visiting the Church and simply absorbing the atmosphere, holding the register, looking at the font is a real experience and was well worth the hassle that I had experienced. Time has passed now and the register completed, so the Church have deposited it with the Surrey Records Centre.

The visit was aimed at a completion of seeing the records. I had the data – the names of my Great Aunts & Uncles and when they were born already from the oldest sibling of the family, yet I learnt several new things that day. Firstly, that my Great Grandparents had lost three children, two boys and a girl, all of whom had died within their first year. The little girl had died of convulsions. I also learnt that my Great Aunt who we had all called Doll, because she was christened Dorothy and was so small as a baby that her siblings called her Doll, was in fact not Christened Dorothy, she was formally Christened as Lillian Dorothy.

In the parish of my own Christening, like my Mum and Grandmother before me, I was held, apparently at the font by my Godparents and Christened. I have my original Baptism Certificate which records me as Julie Joyce, which is actually incorrect, although the Baptism record does record the details correctly.  Joyce is the middle name of my Mother, so perhaps it was the same rector who carried out the service.

In these two instances, we have an official record, given to the parents and Godparents that is incorrect, supported by a correct recording in the register along with my birth certificate. We also have family history which conflicted what the official documentation says. Even my Great Aunt, who would have been 15 years old at the time her sister was born was adamant that her sister was christened Dorothy.

We should view the records, both those retained at the church and those given by the church and oral family history in tandem, in this case there is any inconsistencies such as in my case.

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Worplesdon circa 1903

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New Research Territory…….

In the early 1990s I spent a year living in Australia, using the home of my Mum’s first cousin as a base. I was made to feel so very welcome and I do believe, that upon his arrival in Australia in 1946, Mum’s cousin had no intention of ever returning to England. It broke my Great Aunt’s heart, but she was proud of her son and what he achieved with his new family.

What a family it was, as he and his wife had 10 children! His wife was lovely and although they are no longer with us, I did several times promise that I would research his wife’s family, in case at some point in the future their children, Grandchildren or even Great Grandchildren wanted to know about their roots. My Cousins’s English roots are well documented here, but his wife had a complex family and over the last few days I have been sitting looking at the small amounts of data she shared with me,and from what research I have done previously in readiness of my trip later in the year.
I am heading much as her ancestors did into new territory, mine initially from within the confines of my home and later the various records offices in Australia, and those ancestors from the depths of Prussia to South Australia. I have spent several hours confused, and so much so that my head is spinning! The research is fascinating, and I so wish that my Cousin’s wife was here with me so that she could share the journey of her ancestry, alas that is not to be.
Whilst I was in Australia I did in fact stay with my Cousins’s father in law. He was a fascinating man, who I do  not think particularly thought his son in law was good enough for his daughter! He was a lovely chap and we shared several afternoons together talking about the old days. He knew snippets of his family history and shared them with me. He also directed me to a book that had been published in the early 1980s and that his daughter had. I borrowed the book and for the next 6 months or so devoured the contents several times. 
As I  looked back at those early notes I made, I became acutely aware that this side of the family was well known for repeating the names within the family and various female versions of the names. Is it any wonder I am confused? We have already wandered into the territory of 3 siblings with the surname of Hohnberg marrying 3 siblings with the surname of Hartwig. A Google search reveals that there are passenger lists available and I intend to try and focus on these Prussian families for a while.
So, here are the briefest of details – 
Surnames – NOACK, HOHNBERG, HARTWIG, IRMLER, 
Ships – Caesar & Helene (1859), Skjold (1855), Reihersteig (1866), Wilhelmine (1855)
Locations (Prussia) – Sawade, Silesia, Janny, Silesia
Loctions (Australia) – Eden Valley, Maddum both in South Australia and then across into New South Wales – Temora and Coolamon
Religion – Lutheran
As I said, the briefest of details. I have various information and data that I need to place into a visual family tree so that I can become familiar with the names – a real favourite is Johann August and various variations
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100 Word Challenge – Week 34

Joining the weekly 100 words challenge for Grown ups. This week the prompt is to use the following prompt with no more than 100 words.

……but I turned it off……

They had just sat down to eat when she felt wetness on the back of her head. When she looked up, towards the ceiling there was a dark brown patch. A further look around and she realised that the dripping had been happening for a while. Suddenly they both rushed from the table upstairs to the room above. When they entered, water was up to their knees and the bath tap was still running.
She turned to look at him and said, “but, I turned it off”
“Apparently not” he replied whilst reaching forward to the taps.
Taking part in the 100 word Challenge for Grown Ups – Week #34
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Tuesday’s Tip – Index Cards

A recent thread via the Guild of One Name Studies mailing list resulted in my sharing a few comments and then an example of my index cards.

When I started researching back in 1986, none of my records were computerised. Every individual’s data was held on an index card, and for a few individuals there data goes across several cards. As time went on, and my skills increased, my genealogical lines became more complex and the amount of surnames grew and grew, I found there was a need for computerisation.

I have the added issue of several lines inter marrying and in some cases the same surname crops up, but on different lines of my family, or with no known connection. I therefore set about thinking how I could cope with the computerised  & paper records. After many, many weeks of agonising here is what I decided on.

  • One computer file – called Mainfile. This starts with me and goes back to my earliest ancestor. it also goes sideways, from my husband and then back to his earliest ancestor.
  • Paper copies of Main File – mine are referenced Mainfile (JDG) and Mainfile (SPG) for my husbands.
  • Electronic copies of Main File – mine are referenced Genealogy> Mainfile (JDG) & Genealogy > Mainfile (SPG). You can read an earlier post HERE
  • Things that do not fit into our specific lines of descent are held in a filing cabinet with each surname A-Z
  • Things that do not fit into our lines of descent but held on computer are held in a series of document files with the surnames A-Z
  • My trusty card index. Every ancestor in Mainfile, including living relatives.

Here is one example of an index card for my ancestor Daniel Butcher. His data currently goes across 2 cards.

 

 

 

The data recorded on the card indexes is replicated in the computerised file and the physical file, which incorporates any documents such as the sale of a property called Biddles in 1755. Whilst, this may seem like a duplication, I like the cards as it enables me to see at a glance a time line of what a specific ancestor or individual is doing. It also takes me back to those early research days!

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Beyond the Internet Week 10: Church records – the life and times of a parish and its parishioners


Continuing the weekly theme, inspired by Family History Across the Seas.

I believe that we are only limited on where to look for ancestors and their paper trail, by our imagination of where to look for those ancestors!

Poor Law records for one of my ancestral villages of Puttenham shows very clearly that the Budd girls were often pregnant and husband less! Did there parents shake their head and hold their head in their hands as they were informed of another mouth to feed and another absent father? Some things we shall never know, but is true now and I dare say then, if money, and especially other people’s money has to be given to someone then there is probably a trail of paper to support the fact.

Within each parish was a wonderful item called the Parish Chest. Within the walls of the box was kept the documents of the parish and contained therein the hopeful details of our ancestors. This included the Poor Law Records which include Bastardy Bonds and Settlement Records.

Here are the details of the Bastardy Records for Puttenham Surrey
1823 Harriet Budd of Puttenham & Daniel Dolly of Ash
1827 Charlotte Budd of Puttenham & Stephen Hall of Farnham
1827 Harriet Budd of Puttenham & Samuel Harding of Puttenham
1839 Sarah Budd of Puttenham & Henry Nicholls of Aldershot

Also contained within the box would be details of the Parish Clerks, those individuals who were of a certain standing within the village who would ensure that the “right thing” would be done by the parishioners. The Church Warden records and other miscellaneous records relating to the village. 

In 1824, the Village boundaries of Puttenham were walked by various parishioners and this record has survived within the confines of the Poor Law records. The date the boundaries were walked was the 9th April 1824 and I can see that several of my Budd ancestors walked. Richard Budd along with others. They were joined at Pond Head by Richard Budd (Richard Budd’s father) and George Budd.

The Curate of Puttenham was a curious and interesting chap, by the name of Charles Kerry. During the time he was Curate, Kerry recorded all sorts of details about the parish, its parishioners and various other historical details in a series of manuscripts. The manuscripts have survived and were returned to Kerry’s home County of Derbyshire upon his death. Surrey Records Centre have a microfilmed copy of them and I am lucky enough to have photocopies of the manuscripts.

Here is an example of one of the gems, from within the manuscripts


What is wonderful about this pedigree, written by Kerry is the incidental facts that it mentions. Facts that would otherwise be completely unknown to me and fellow researchers. William Budd is recorded as having been bitten by a snake when he put his hand into a rabbit hole. As a result of the bit, William became crippled. Kerry tells us that he attended Sarah Budd (nee Chalcraft) during her last illness and that Richard Budd, my direct ancestor had a fine tenor voice. I can confirm that sometime in the last couple of hundred years, the fine singing voice has been lost within the family! Who says the dead don’t speak?

There might be diaries left by land owners, or jotting parishioners? Perhaps people that do not relate to your specific ancestry, but whose lives would have co existed with ancestors. Are your ancestors written within those pages? 

There are so many places to explore within the parish archives, that perhaps go beyond the official records of the time. Did you ancestor pay a tithe? Did the land owner hold lands in nearby Parishes or Counties? Are there diaries, papers and manuscripts of people in those parishes? Have there been books written about your ancestral parish? If so, look through the bibliography as that might reveal a document or a source that has not been looked at.


What treasures exist in your ancestral parishes?

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Japan Vintage Color Prints by Lev Well Parts 1 & 2

I recently downloaded from Amazon this two part pictorial series, of Japanese Vintage Prints depicting life in Japan during the period of 1850-1860.

There is very little in the way of writing within the e-book. There is a brief introduction explaining the type of colour drawings. Each page has a small explanation of the scene before you. I personally would have liked to know where the originals are and the story behind the e-book. I viewed these on a iPad rather than my Kindle so I could enjoy the colour prints. It was a nice relaxing half an hour whilst I looked through and enjoyed the prints, which were produced by woodcut print method.
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Sunshine Award

Thanks to Betsy of Remember……..a family history blog who gave me the award at the end of 2011.

The rules are quite simple-

  1. Thank the person who gave you the award
  2. Answer 10 questions
  3. Pass the award along to 10 sunshine worthy bloggers
Here are the questions and my answers!
  1. Favourite colour – green and blue
  2. Favourite animal – Kaola
  3. Favourite number – 2
  4. Favourite drink – Tea
  5. Facebook or Twitter – It depends, but overall I think Twitter
  6. My Passion – Several – my family, genealogy and books
  7. Giving or Receiving – Giving is best!
  8. Favourite Day – Friday
  9. Favourite Flower – Sunflower
  10. Favourite Foods – Dark or plain chocolate toffees.
I should now pass the award along to 10 worthy bloggers. I have decided that I am not going to pass the award along. There are so many wonderfully informative and fun blogs out there, certainly many more than 10! I follow loads and do not comment nearly enough.

Instead I am going to loan another $25 to the Kiva Project that I have mentioned several times on this blog. I am a member of the Genealogists for Families Team.

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Weekend Cooking – Joyful Momma’s Guide to Shopping & Cooking Frugally by Kimberley Eddy

I spotted this a week or two ago, available as a free download for Amazon Kindle. I notice today though it has gone back up to £1.30 here in the UK. What drew me to the book was the cover. I know, you should not judge a book by its cover, but sometimes, you just have to! So downloaded the book was and I read using my iPad.

The author is an American, so this is written with an American readership in mind, although that did not matter. The book has some references to the author’s Christianity, it was not overly referenced or intrusive. It is written in a very genuine manner and automatically readers share a warmth with the author.

What I found interesting was the apparent differences between grocery shopping in the United States and the UK. The every day things that we take for granted or acceptance within our own lives and way of life. The use of vouchers and really being organised enough to use them before the expiry, something that I rarely do! The author shares her experiences of food parcels – she had in the past both contributed to them for others and received one and her reflections and observations about the types of foods that go into them.

The food parcel references reminded me of when I was at school. Around October time we would have a Harvest Festive. Historically it was about giving thanks for the Harvest that would take families and communities through Winter into Spring. We were encouraged to submit the name & address of someone who was elderly or perhaps would benefit from such a parcel. We would then be tasked to collect a small box – usually a little larger than a shoe box and fill it with groceries. The goodies box then went into school for the assembly and afterwards we were dispatched into the community to deliver the said parcel to the named individual. Some happy memories there.

The author talks about buying fresh meat on sale, making the point of exactly how fresh is it? Taking advantage of those special offers. There were two thoughts that I had whilst reading.

The way we shop today is hugely different to the way our Grandparents shopped and further thinking was even shopping from when I was a kid in the 1970s is different to now. Here in the UK when I was growing up shops were closed on Sundays. The only times they opened on a Sunday was at Christmas. Shops closed at 5.30pm or 6pm and late night food shopping  – well until 8pm happened on a Thursday and Friday. Now grocery shops can be open 24 hours apart from the Sunday trading regulations which prevents this on a Sunday. In Scotland the trading regulations are different on a Sunday.

The domestic equipment we have now impacts on the way we shop. Homes have fridges and freezers,and there availability impacts on how, when and how often we shop. My regular supermarket has offers on fairly regularly. Some meats have little tickets on “2 for £10” these are foods that I regularly buy – mince, chickens and chicken portions, chops, gammon steaks. I tend to select those with the longest shelf dates and put in the fridge, then as the date approaches if I have not used it put it in the freezer. I tend to repackage chicken portions into bags of 2. Not only does that save space but also means I can defrost the two I need rather than the whole pack! Simple things that perhaps are frugal, but also have an historical concept to them.

At the rear of the book are some useful websites, including a link to the author’s and some recipes.

I enjoyed this book, not because it has a nice cover! or the content, which despite being in the UK contained useful information, but also because it made me think, reflect of earlier times in my life and consider the changes to past generations.

Taking part in Weekend Cooking, hosted by BethFishReads

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Railway Station, Wanborough

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