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The Chantries or Pilgrims Way circa 1907
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52 Ancestors:# 2 – Daniel Brown (1812 – 1869)
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| No Story Too Small |
This post is for week 2 of the 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks Challenge by Amy Crow from No Story Too Small.
You can read the list of my posts HERE
Daniel Brown was married to the sister of my Great, great, great Grandmother Prudence Budd.
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| Courtesy of Ancestry – Parish Records Puttenham Surrey 13th October 1839 |
The marriage was witnessed by Prudence and her husband George Ellis and they both signed their names with the X indicating that they could not read or write, or certainly not well enough for such an occasion.
Daniel and Rosanna made their life in Puttenham where they raised a family of eight children between 1835 and 1857. Their eldest child, a daughter called Emma was born 4 years before they married in 1839.
In this period, a marriage could take place if there was parental consent before the age of 21 years. At the time of the marriage Rosanna was 25 years old, so perhaps there was not consent from Rosanna’s father Richard which might explain the delay in the marriage. Moreover, perhaps it also explains why the marriage was witnessed by her sister and brother in law.
In the burial records for Puttenham I came across the burial of Daniel Brown who took his own life and was buried in January 1869. He was 55 years old.
What I like especially about this record is the note at the side of the entry, with the handwritten finger pointing downwards to the bottom of the page, with the explanation of the amendments that were made for this burial.
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| Courtesy of Ancestry – Parish Records Puttenham Surrey Burials 1868 & 1869 |
Actions to do:
- Inquest data
- Newspaper (Surrey Advertiser)
- Follow the family post 1869 to see if there were repercussions to the family post Daniel’s death
Society Saturday – Society for One-Place Studies
Last week I announced my thoughts for Society Saturday, so first up is the Society for One-Place Studies.
I was approached in the late Spring of 2013 and asked if I would be prepared to get involved? Well of course I would, as I believed that such a Society was much needed and long overdue within the genealogical and local history arenas.
| Image courtesy of the Society for One-Place Studies |
The Society formed back in September 2013. It has a truly global focus, both in terms of membership and the location of the registered One Place Studies. The committee is spread across three continents.
The Society exists to promote best practice, share ideas, sources and debate with other like minded historians. That is of course not all and further details can be found on the Societies web page
The Society truly has embraced the modern age. Members can benefit by the Society forum, access to Destinations the quarterly digital newsletter and the growing list of resources. Meanwhile, everyone can read and comment on the Society blog and can take part in the monthly hangouts which are hosted using Google.
In early December the Society hosted a Google hangout with the discussion of “Choosing Your Place“
The Society will be hosting regular monthly hangouts taking part on the fourth Friday of the month from January 2014.
The Society has launched a World War One Centenary Project which encourages historians with specific place study to explore the community and the lives of those individuals who contributed to the war effort.
The Society for One-Place Studies is available across a variety of social media channels – Face Book, Twitter, YouTube, Google+, Blog and the Website.
Book of Me, Written by Me, Prompt 19
Today is week 19 of what is going to be a 15 month project. Each Saturday, at around 12.30am UK time I will release the prompt for that week’s Book of Me, Written by You.
If you are new here, welcome! The details, background flyer and Face Book link to the Book of Me can be found HERE.
This week’s prompt is – Who Do You Miss?
Having just gone through the Festive season our thoughts turn to those not with us.
- Whether that is people who live elsewhere and that we will not see over the festive season
- People that have passed away.
- Who do y0u miss?
- Why do you miss them?
- Them as an individual
- Something specific to them
Floods at Guildford – 3rd January 1928
Postcard by D Box. 86 years ago today, this was the view at Guildford. It shows the lower High Street, with St Nicholas Church on the left, looking up to the Mount.
New Beginnings
Earlier today the Worldwide Genealogy Blog went live. How exciting is that? Since my reminder post of a few days ago two more genealogical authors have joined us in this genealogical blogging adventure.
If you want to keep up with our daily posts, then you can subscribe to the blog by clicking HERE and if you want to see who is currently taking part then click HERE. If you want to take part then click HERE
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52 Ancestors:# 1 ~ Mary King nee Budd (1744 – 1817)
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| No Story Too Small |
This post is for week 1 of the 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks Challenge by Amy Crow from No Story Too Small.
You can read the list of my posts HERE
Mary King nee Budd was the sister to my several times Great Grandfather, Richard Budd. Mary was born in Puttenham Surrey in 1744 the youngest of 8 children born to Henry Budd and his wife Martha Otway.
Mary married John King in Puttenham in 1767 and together John and Mary raised a family 10 children (9 girls and 1 boy). Each of their offspring spent time in India and have over the years given me a huge amount of insight into the lives of women at this period of time.
John King died in 1803 and Mary died in 1817. From what I can establish at the moment, John did not leave a will.
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| Courtesy of Ancestry – Parish Records Puttenham Surrey Burials 1817 |
Recently Ancestry has published the Probate records and a quick search revealed that Mary left a will when she died.
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| Courtesy of Ancestry – Probate Record 1817 |
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| Courtesy of Ancestry – Probate Record 1817 |
Actions
- Transcribe the will of Mary
- Search for will of John King (again)
- Explore the residence at time of death – Tooting which is London
- The will indicates that Mary was living with her daughter Lucy who married Richard William Eastwick
- By the time Mary King died her only son had predeceased her, within a year of this will being made, yet Mary had not made a new will.
Happy New Year!
With the weather here in the UK typically miserable, we have as we have got older and (wiser?) stopped going out on New Years Eve, opting for a quiet family affair.
This year with Mum still in hospital, a new year full of promise starts full of concern and worry and a fair amount of contemplation. We did opt to stay in, we watched the fire works at London and rang Australia to talk to my family who are so very dearly missed.
Here are the fireworks from a cold, wet and windy London.
And from my home and family to yours Happy New Year. May 2014 be everything you wish for.
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Genealogy Proof, Fact and Sourcing
One of the things that I like the most about the Guild of One Name Studies is that there is a mailing list which does, from time to time have interesting posts and debates.
Just after Christmas, a link to a post that had been written by +Tony Proctor was shared on the mailing list. Tony’s post can be read HERE. (Before I proceed further, the title of this post was initially used by +Jim Benedict and seems to fit the bill rather nicely, so it is correct that I acknowledge Jim)
Tony’s post is thought provoking and clearly others on the Guild mailing list thought the same. I have been reading and contemplating since last Thursday and wonder if we are making genealogy too complicated?Hold that thought for a moment!
When we start researching, we are all I am sure a little careless when we come to noting down where we obtained information from. I know I was and that was back in the mid 1980’s. Since then with over 25 years of experience and a history degree under my belt I am more careful, but on rare occasions I have had sources slip through the net. What can I say, it happens and I am human! In those situations I have had to back track through the documents so that I could clarify the actual and correct source.
Whatever the fact is, we need to be able to support that fact with a source. Now that may be a document or a statement of oral history or perhaps a combination of those things. It is the combination of those things that can perhaps fill gaps where there is an error or potential for error.
I will give you an example. A baptism certificate written by the Church just after the proceedings. The name on the certificate is incorrect. How can that be? I have a genuine written piece of paper to prove it….or do I? Well yes, I do have a genuine piece of paper, written by the vicar at the time. The date is right and the first forename is correct, but the middle name is incorrect. To be absolutely sure a search of the births register for the year preceding the event is searched. There are none. A search for any births with that combination of name is conducted in the County, again there are none. Then the search is extended further to the Country. Again there are none.
I can though provide with the baptism certificate a birth certificate of the actual birth with the correct name and the birth certificate with the mother’s name which is correct. I can also add to that a paragraph of oral history from me with a hypothesis of how the vicar came to make the error in the first place.
In the previous example we have started with the evidence and worked backwards to substantiate it. Now I am going to share a fact that is true and will form part of my oral history. I will then present a series of potential and documentary evidence which should prove the initial statement.
As I write this my Mum is in hospital. I can tell you when she was admitted. How can I prove it? Well the Ambulance crew who attended to Mum have recorded the events and should have left Mum a copy (they didn’t and that is another story!). Mum was admitted to the hospital at accident and emergency and then to an assessment ward. The only proof I can provide is the official response from the hospital in regard to a complaint that I made and I was with Mum as she was transferred to the ward. Having been admitted to that ward, she was then moved to another ward at 4am the following morning some 5 hours later. The only proof I have is what is documented in Mum’s medical notes and my oral history that I visited her on the new ward twice daily for over ten days. Then on day eleven I was with her when she was moved to another ward which specialised with the diagnosis that Mum has.
Medical Records here in the UK are subject to Access to Medical Report 1988, therefore they are available to the patient only if it does not cause detriment to the patient involved. Limited access can be granted in the form of a statement to third parties for example insurance companies and alike. Access to historical medical records are sealed for 100 years from the last entry, if they have survived. Medical Records is the subject of a forthcoming article published on the regular column of Across the Pond published by the In-Depth Genealogist.
As to absolute proof, does it exist in the genealogical & historical field? No, it does not. Examples of official documents such as births, marriages and deaths that have been recorded incorrectly exist. An error, by omission in relation to cremation records exists with regard to my late father in law. In that instance some material was deliberately left out, which will undoubtedly cause problems in the future to those researching the family, and a fellow Guild of One Name Studies member!
What is important is that books such as these:
- Evidence Explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills
- Mastering Genealogical Proof by Thomas W Jones
Both of these books exist to educate and inform genealogists, and encourage best practice. It is important to identify that records outside of the United States exist in a different form or maybe given different names. However despite this it is imperative that genealogists understand how to and what to extract and record in relation to citations. If the theory is understood then adapting the theory to the records of a specific country or unusual source is much easier and will be consistent across the genealogy of the researcher.
Back to my original question, are we making genealogy too complicated? Yes, perhaps on the face of it we are, but if sources and the format of material is recorded accurately then someone in the future can easily locate the material and follow your paper trail which will enable another genealogist to concur with your findings or alternatively prove or disprove your recorded hypothesis. Furthermore, reading these books will open your mind to sources and material that perhaps is not absolutely obvious.
This has been an interesting discussion and debating point which has distracted me from a few other issues. I have enjoyed contemplating it and writing this post; and I hope you enjoy reading it.
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